Eucharistic Miracles or Demonic Deceptions?


The Catholic Church claims that the many Eucharistic miracles are proof that the bread (of the Lord’s supper) is turned into the Lord’s actual body, blood, soul, and divinity.

A so-called “miracle” that took place in 2005 in Naju after these two hosts apparently were suspended in mid-air by themselves and when they dropped to the floor, were bloody.

This is not an easy article for me to write for several reasons. Number one, because I was an avid Eucharist-adorer/believer. I used to think these miracles were proof the Catholic Church was true and that when I received communion, I ate God, just as the Church told me. Secondly, doing research to find these images leave me feeling physically ill and nauseated. Something I thought was the ultimate in holiness is akin to some kind of demonic cannibalistic  witch craft.

How many of you Catholics reading this article would be willing to eat the hosts in the above picture? Something inside you says NO. Yet, every week, or day if you are a daily Mass goer, you are , according to the Catholic Church, eating Christ’s flesh.

Through the centuries, the Roman Church has proclaimed these miracles. During the  Inquisition, Christians who refused to bow down and worship and then eat the hosts were burnt at the stake. Interestingly enough, in recent years the Roman Catholic Church is pushing Eucharistic worship along with the New Evangelization. The New Evangelization is a new plan to take back “Catholic” countries for the Catholic Church and promote Eucharisitic worship and amazement. Pope John Paul II said:

“The Year of the Eucharist has its source in the amazement with which the Church contemplates this great Mystery. It is amazement which I myself constantly experience . . .” (Mane Nobiscum, 29)

Pope John Paul II spoke of rekindling the amazement of the Eucharist. He also called Catholic Mary “Mother of the Eucharist.”

“Mother of the Eucharist” monstrance in Chicago. Note the sun and moon symbolism, which are the symbols of Islam. Sun worship is the ancient practice of Baal worship.

I do not like looking through these images. For me, it is a past full of idolatry. It is important for me to show you more of these ‘miracles.’  This next photo is extremely disturbing and demonic, however well documented:

Julia Kim of Naju, Korea. The Eucharist turns to “flesh” in her mouth routinely . She is well known as a holy “mystic.”

Bishop Gatti who consecrated the bloody host, also ate it and described his feelings after ingesting the flesh.

The Bishop stated:
Receiving the Holy Communion I have enjoyed the sweet taste of Jesus blood and I felt a strong heat and intense scent that invaded my inside. With this latest great Eucharistic miracle God put his seal on all the precious miracles that were refused by the great men of the Church, who claimed to know the name of priest who had consecrated the hosts of Jesus. Our Lady, the saints and angels brought into the thaumaturgical place, including the numerous hosts that poured blood.
One of the more disturbing  “miracles” shown below, may cause you to get sick. It shows flesh pulsating in a glass monstrance,  pulsating, oozing and squirming in the glass. It resides in Venezuela:
 
A dear friend of mine has recently left Catholicism. I write this for her and for all Catholics. This act of cannibalism is un-godly. It is idolatry. It is unclean. When I look at these images my insides revolt and I want to turn away. You must know and see what Catholicism teaches. They teach that when you eat the Lord’s supper you are eating real flesh and blood and that is how you have “life within you.”
Pope Benedict has stated that those who do not participate in the Eucharist are not real Christians.
Those truly born again can not imagine bowing before bread. They can not imagine that the Lord, sitting at the right hand of the Father, on command of the Catholic Priest could be contained into a piece of bread to be locked in a box. A piece of bread which can corrode and rot if not eaten in time.
Acts 2:27

because you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay.

Acts 7:47

However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men.

(end of scripture)

Despite these scriptures and the fact there is one incarnation seated at the right hand of the Father, the Roman Catholic Church says the opposite and those who do not believe it are anathema. Jesus said He was the vine and that he was the door. Did He ask His followers to gnaw on flesh in a sort of Cannibalism to find life everlasting? Or did He ask us to feed on the Word instead?

Matthew 4:4

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

Written by Sue

44 Responses

  1. Yes, this is very strange, ill and unfavorable to say the least, for even Thomas Aquinas Eucharist doctrine does not allow this! The so-called ‘Real Presence’ is not a bloodly Christ. I am myself closer to Luther’s position, which also does not allow such either. It is a Risen, Ascended Christ that is present, and both spiritually and mystically. As we are ourselves the Mystic Body of Christ!

    “The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread., (1 Cor. 10:16-17, etc. ESV)

    Here “participation” is the Greek “koinonia”, which is fellowship or sharing. Here our “partnership” is together with Christ, as fellow believers and Christians. John also uses the same word and concept, but toward each other ‘In Christ’, with both our common fellowship with ‘the Father and the Son.’ (1 John 1:3; 6-7)

  2. Robert, do you feel you need to worship the bread then?

    • Sue: No not at all! But, I am certainly not “Zwinglian” on sacramental theology. And “fundamentalist” theology/ideology does not serve us here either! This is “Theological”, and all biblical theology must be properly “spiritual”, as well as properly historical.

      • So what do you think is proper historic teaching?

      • Sue,

        “Proper historic teaching”, is certainly Judeo-Christian…OT and New, biblical and theological. But also apostolic, (Acts 2:42). And I would also add the Ecumenical Councils (Nicene, etc.) And with the Incarnation itself, here too is the essence of the faith of the Trinity of God, etc. But too, historically the Church is now both “catholic” and “reformed”. So the “historical” reality of the Church, is also somewhat “Incarnational”, as we see the Risen and Ascended Christ central and centred in the Body-Mystical of Christ, “Itself”. But the Visible Church now is always a “mixed” body, both the true “Elect” people of God, and those too who are visibly within the covenant, but are not regenerate. Note the biblical, “wheat & tares”, etc.

  3. WOW! This is beyond stuff I have previously read or heard. I agree – this is 100% demonic. Thanks for the post and the alert to such occult “miracles.” Roman Catholicism continues to demonstrate its origin is not of God.

  4. Hi Glenn,

    Thanks for the comment. There’s more stuff where that came from. I forget that growing up Catholic, I know about this stuff, but many don’t. I plan on writing more on these types of things and the stigmata may be next.

  5. Images were hard to look at, disgusting. But good warnings in your blog post. Thanks.

  6. Thanks Tekhelet..welcome.

  7. Hi Sue. I listened to a program speaking about the Didache which is thought to be a document that was written in the first century. It’s purpose was to tell believers what the faith was…in a nutshell. Anyway, I wanted to post the part on the eucharist here since this is thought to be what the early church thought about it. Athanasius describes it as ‘appointed by the Fathers to be read by those who newly join us, and who wish for instruction in the word of goodness’ . What struck me was the simplicity that is now long gone replaced by tradition.

    ” Chapter 9. The Eucharist.Now concerning the Eucharist, give thanks this way. First, concerning the cup:

    We thank thee, our Father, for the holy vine of David Thy servant, which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever..

    And concerning the broken bread:

    We thank Thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Thy kingdom; for Thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever..

    But let no one eat or drink of your Eucharist, unless they have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, “Give not that which is holy to the dogs.”

    Chapter 10. Prayer after Communion.But after you are filled, give thanks this way:

    We thank Thee, holy Father, for Thy holy name which You didst cause to tabernacle in our hearts, and for the knowledge and faith and immortality, which You modest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Thou, Master almighty, didst create all things for Thy name’s sake; You gavest food and drink to men for enjoyment, that they might give thanks to Thee; but to us You didst freely give spiritual food and drink and life eternal through Thy Servant. Before all things we thank Thee that You are mighty; to Thee be the glory for ever. Remember, Lord, Thy Church, to deliver it from all evil and to make it perfect in Thy love, and gather it from the four winds, sanctified for Thy kingdom which Thou have prepared for it; for Thine is the power and the glory for ever. Let grace come, and let this world pass away. Hosanna to the God (Son) of David! If any one is holy, let him come; if any one is not so, let him repent. Maranatha. Amen.

    But permit the prophets to make Thanksgiving as much as they desire.”

  8. Hi Dawn.

    Thank you ! That was very interesting. I see no evidence of worshiping bread, the sacrifice of the mass, or the bread becoming flesh.
    This did strike me though:
    But let no one eat or drink of your Eucharist, unless they have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, “Give not that which is holy to the dogs.”

    Uh, not baptized yet.

  9. I thought that was interesting also Sue.

  10. Here’s what is says about baptism:

    “Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism.And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.”

  11. So basically, the first choice is a lake or stream.
    I never heard of fasting before baptism.
    And the pouring of water on the head is a classic RCC thing for the babies. I know in the baptist tradition it is full immersion or nothing, right?

  12. There is nothing in the New Testament saying to fast before baptism. And remember the jailers who Paul baptized in the middle of the night? Don’t think they had time to fast.

  13. Nope…I don’t recall fasting before baptism described in scripture either Sue. But then again, I don’t see a command to be baptized before partaking in the Lord’s Supper either. I think this document is really interesting though if it is authentic.

  14. Right. In Baptist tradition, it is by immersion. We were taught however, that if you didn’t have a way to immerse, that pouring was ok if you had too.

  15. I don’t understand how those who are not regenerate are in the body.Only because someone poured water on their heads as infants? In that case Hitler was in the body.
    Jesus seemed very clear that rule following was not enough as Nicodemus, chief teacher of the law–did follow it well. He had to be BORN again, given a NEW heart. How is a baby give a new heart when the baby knows nothing? Covenant theology does not make sense. The Jews thought they were “in” by being good rule followers. Jesus came to show them He wanted their hearts, He showed them a new way. Saying ‘covenant Christianity’ is enough is on par to saying being a good church member is enough.

    • Sue: We can see that being near or standing under the covenant alone, does not mean necessarily personal salvation. This was the boast of the Jews. As we can see in the whole Book or Letter to the Hebrews, (see Heb. chap. 6, and chapter 10, verse 29).

  16. Hi Robert,

    Then how is it the unregenerate are in the body?

    • The “unregenerate” are in the Visible Body of the Church, and this includes the “covenant” sign, i.e. Baptism, but since baptism does not “save”, but is a ‘sign & seal’ of that salvation alone. We simply don’t know who the “Elect” really are. That is left to the Lord alone, at the judgment. We can somewhat see who the Lord’s people are generally, by their fruits & deeds, etc. But the absolute reality of that belongs to the Lord alone! (2 Tim. 2:19, etc.)

  17. The video link above, Sue, do u think that Eucharistic miracle is approved by RC church? I thank you for posting – don’t get me wrong – but every time I come back to read the comments here I have to scroll down with my eyes shut b/c they are truly something demonic.

  18. I don’t think it’s approved yet. Sort of recent..1989 and the church takes time to claim miracles.

    Here’s a link about Julia Kim, that lady above. Yucky Yucky

    http://www.najumaria.com/testimonies/bishop.htm

    • Ran across this blog post while view authentic eucharistic miracles. Both the instances you mentioned above are fraudulent and have been proven as as hoax; reasoning why you won’t easily find these from reputable sources.
      Since you initiated so heavily with the “recovering Catholic” card I feel it necessary to comment. Normally I wouldn’t waste my time on sites like these that are so agenda driven to spin Catholics as extremist who are demonic cannibals. Catholics have and will always survive rhetoric such as this. That is not my issue. My issue is with the fact we live in a society that accepts truths(rather they be truths or not) without any question. A) It shows people are more hungry than ever for truth and B) It shows a deteriorating society. We can’t hope for people to simply tell the truth and have good intention and that’s the sad part. I challenge everyone here to read about Catholicism. The history and our beliefs. Spend an hour on Catholic Answers(just google it) and the forums. IT’s a great source. Don’t just assume that if something has a YouTube link that it is authentic. Then pray and ask for God to show you the truth. We are weak humans but the Lord gave us the ability to discern and the gift of intelligence. Just ask if God has ever or would ever appear in such a way as displayed here. I believe God would show Himself in a much ambiguous way than this. It’s for us to have faith and take what he does show us. You’re right about one thing… this is demonic, but it is NOT Catholic.

      Catholic Article on the Eucharist:
      http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-real-presence

  19. Amberle,

    Welcome and shalom.

    I know people that work for Catholic Answers. I attended Franciscan University and attended Scott Hahn’s class. That being said, I was a a devout Catholic all of my life until I was saved.
    Where is there proof of the hoax? Pope John Paul even gave Julia Kim communion himself.
    If you believe that what you receive is His body in your mouth, you are no less a cannibal. The church says you are eating His flesh, even though you cant see the blood. How can you claim Kim is a cannibal and you aren’t???

  20. You are all anti Christ. You cannot stand the presence of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ.

    • How can you be literally drinking Christ’s blood and eating his flesh when Col. 3:1 clearly states “Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” Christ is not present in a wafer or a glass, He resides in heaven where He reigns equally with the Father.
      Also, Christ says to partake in the Lord’s supper ‘in remembrance of Him’ {Luke 22:19}, He does not say He is actually present in the bread and the cup. This is false teaching from the RCC with no scriptural support. Even when they try and twist John 6:54 as literal, you have to remember the Bible forbids drinking blood {Lev. 7, Deut. 12:23} Also, where cannibalism is mentioned, it is a result of spiritual apostasy {Lev. 26:29, Deut. 28:53-57, here in particular it is listed with the curses that result from disobedience}. God’s word does not contradict, so Christ is not endorsing drinking blood, which is forbidden, or eating human flesh. To interpret John 6:54 literally is a grievous mistake, it must be taken in a symbolic sense of His sacrifice on the cross. In other words, you must trust in what He has done solely and completely for the saving of your soul, nothing added, nothing taken away. Matthew Henry comments “It has been wretchedly misconstrued by the church of Rome for the support of their monstrous doctrine of transubstantiation, which gives the lie to our senses, contradicts the nature of a sacrament, and overthrows all convincing evidence. They, like these Jews here, understand it of a corporal and carnal eating of Christ’s body, like Nicodemus, ch. 3, 4. The Lord’s supper was not yet instituted, and therefore it could have no reference to that; it is a spiritual eating and drinking that is here spoken of, not a sacramental”.

      • Why are you limiting God,?
        I’ve never understood people that try and tell God what he can and cannot do. It says in the Bible that you shall eat my flesh and drink my blood or you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven. When people walked away because they didn’t want to do that he didn’t call them back and say wait wait I didn’t really mean that. READ YOUR BIBLE!!!! John 6:52-71 you need to read the whole thing to understand what Jesus said. Stop trying to change his words, it says in the Bible no one can change the Bible Revelation 22: 18-19

      • Betty,
        No one is limiting God. I’m sure you also received my comments explaining the REAL meaning of John 6. It is ROME who has changed the meaning of the text.

        I also want to point out to you that Rev. 22:18-19 does not say what you claimed it says. It only says no one can add or subtract from the book of Revelation – it has nothing to do with the rest of Scripture. I recommend you review this article:
        http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/06/revelation-2218-19.html

  21. Not true Chukwunonso

  22. I am a Christian, who reads the Word of God. In it, God says what He means, and means what He says. In Leviticus 7:26-27, Leviticus 17:10, Deuteronomy 12:16, Acts 15:20-21 and Acts 21:25, God and Jesus Christ, through the inspired Apostle Luke says we are NOT to imbibe blood. Would He give us these clear instructions, then violate them by ordering us to do so? NO! Neither the Father, nor the Son change. They are the same yesterday, today and forever, in Hebrews 13:8, Malachi 3:6, Numbers 23:19. Neither is God a God of confusion, in 1 Corinthians 14:33. If God DID change His mind, He would be violating ALL these Scriptures. He isn’t doing that! Plus, he would no longer be a thrice-holy God. He would be violating His own immutable character. From these Scriptures, and many others, I can FIRMLY conclude that this is a VILE deception of Satan. Remember, Jesus told us “Do NOT be deceived”, in Matt. 24:4. King Jesus also warned us as His return approached, we would see some INCREDIBLE “signs and wonders”, in Matthew 24:24. There are TWO power sources for miracles: the Lord God and Satan. Satan duplicated many of the miracles God performed through Moses, when the Hebrews were leaving Egypt. Read Exodus. Satan made all the kingdoms of the world appear before Jesus when he was tempting Jesus to worship him, in Luke 4:8-9. The False Prophet will make the statue of the coming Antichrist speak, come to life and put to death anyone who refuses to worship it, in Rev. 13:13-15. Hey, we’re seeing this NOW!!! Statues of “Mary”, “Jesus” and the “saints” cry tears of blood and tears, they move and they speak!!! Look into “Our Lady of Akita”, in Japan. God hates and condemns statues and idols. It’s breaking His 2nd Commandment, plus scores of other Scriptures. Here again, He would not give us these instructions, then turn around and have His dear handmaiden Mary speak through one. It’s being guilty by association, just like Paul would not receive the acclaim of the psychic girl in Acts 16:16-18. There is an EVIL imposter who is impersonating Mary. It’s NOT our dear mother in the faith! The REAL Mary would NOT ask for worship of herself, when it’s breaking the 2nd Commandment. Rather, she said “Do whatever Jesus tells you to do”, in John 2:5. Jesus tells us to: “Worship the Lord your God with ALL your heart, soul, mind and strength”, in Matthew 4:10. Stick with the Jesus of the Bible, and His infallible Word, and you CAN’T go wrong.
    Peace to all!

  23. You’re twisting the Catholic Church’s teachings beyond belief. It was Christ Himself who said “This IS my body”, and “This IS the cup of MY blood.” Catholics only do what Jesus tells them to do and you know it. You’re just angry with the Church and left it for some reason and now you’re taking it out by spewing your venom in the form of this blog and at the same time, taking others down with you. What part of John, chapter 6 didn’t Jesus make clear to you? You’re no different than the Jews at the end of that discourse who left Him because they didn’t understand what he was saying – they thought he wanted them to be cannibals, like you do. That’s not what He meant and it’s not what the Church believes and teaches. You say you “grew up Catholic”, but that doesn’t mean you understand what the Eucharistic doctrine is. Even if you no longer believe in the Real Presence, you should know better than to blaspheme our Lord by calling Him a liar.

    • Ju7281,
      It is YOU and Rome who twist what Jesus was saying at the last supper. It was obvious that Jesus saying the elements were symbolic of his body and blood, since He was sitting there with them. DUH. And in John 6, Christ said in vs. 63 that the words he spoke were spiritual.

      There is a metaphoric parallel between John 6:40 and 54:

      everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day

      means the same as:
      Anyone who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day

      Believing Jesus is the same as eating his flesh and drinking his blood. It’s a metaphor – it is not literal.

      Worshiping the wafer in the Eucharist is nothing less than idolatry.

  24. John 6 “for my flesh is real food, my blood is real drink. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood live in me and I live in them..”
    And many left him saying “this teaching is too hard”.
    Count yourselves among those then.

  25. It’s amazing how all religions claim to have miracles to help show that their religion is the true religion. However, the above so called miracles are disturbing. I am a Catholic myself who is starting to look at the different things we believe, and I find them not true to scripture.

    Most Catholics will say that Jesus Christ commanded us to eat his body and blood. However, Christ also spoke in spiritually terms quite frequently. I just don’t get how people can say that eating someone’s flesh and drinking their blood isn’t cannibalism. No matter what way you spin it, the doctrine of transubstantiation is cannibalism.

  26. Disgusting

  27. For those who support the Romanist transubstantiation, I offer my article in evidence against it:

    http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/06/catholic-eucharist-unbiblical-and.html

  28. OR it is God turning the bread and wine into HIS BODY AND BLOOD to prove to people like you that the Eucharist is his literal flesh and blood.

  29. Jn 6:53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood you have no life in you;”…6:55 “for my flesh is food indeed and my blood is drink indeed…” Jesus says this three times, and has never repeated himself as much as in this discourse. He said this IS my body given up for you and this IS the BLOOD of the COVENANT which will be poured for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. There is no room for metaphoric speak and we must remember his words brought many miracles. He spoke to the deceased girl, cursed the fig tree, etc, these are different than his PARABOLIC language. And it is written: Jn 6:60 – Many of his disciples, when they heard it said “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at it said to them: “Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending to where he was before? It is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words i have spoken to you are spirit and life” (i.e. truth)” But there are some of you that do not believe.” and 6:66 After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer walked with him. (end) But Jesus makes no move to soften his words. He lets them leave on the contrary! And further more Corinthians 1 10:15 Paul writes “I speak as to sensible men; judge for yourselves what I say. The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?” If this is only symbolic why does he write in Cor 1 11:27 “Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord…for anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgement upon himself.”
    Now, a couple of things.
    1. Julia Kim and all her followers have been publicly EXCOMMUNICATED and I think whats going on there may very well be demonic.
    2. Has any one of you even read the Catechism of the Catholic Church?? Its only $10 and explains our whole faith.
    3. Concerning corrosion, what about the case Siena, Italy — August 17, 1730?
    ***Consecrated Hosts remain perfectly preserved for over 250 years. Rigorous scientific experiments have not been able to explain this phenomena.*** see website therealpresence.org. Search among TRUE miracles and distinguish from bs you foolish people! Are you jealous? Seek truth and enlightenment! Instead you monger for war with other Christians. The Gospel is rife with the relationship between Jesus and Peter as Vicar of Christ who traveled to Rome in acts and appointed Bishop of the church in Rome. The line from Peter to Francis is well documented. One day this world will be aflame with the Spirit and we will all weep for our sins if we are not already. To quote a famous man I know “…how I wish it were already kindled!” (Luke 12:49)

    • Daniel 22. I’m going to make the same point to you as I made above, which you apparently didn’t read in the comment string:

      Please see my article at:
      http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/06/catholic-eucharist-unbiblical-and.html

      I’ve read the catechism, and cite it in my article. I’ve read the entire book and marked every umbilical statement in it.

      Item 3 about the supposed uncorrupted 250 yr old “host” – breads of all types have been found in archaeological digs throughout history, and they’ve only just hardened. The “host” has nothing in it to “spoil.” And that is if the claim is truthful, rather than a Catholic legend – and the latter is most likely the case.

      Your whole last paragraph is no more than hubris and fairy tales.

    • I forgot to include my response from above.

      In John 6, Christ said in vs. 63 that the words he spoke were spiritual. There is a metaphoric parallel between John 6:40 and 54:

      everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day

      means the same as:
Anyone who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day

      Believing Jesus is the same as eating his flesh and drinking his blood. It’s a metaphor – it is not literal.

      Worshiping the wafer in the Eucharist is nothing less than idolatry

  30. Daniel. Jesus said “I am the vine” and ” I am the door” we know he is not a literal vine or door. Eating flesh is cannabalism. He was not a canabalist. Those following him were hoping for a full stomach. They just got filled with bread and fish from the last miracle. Jesus was saying it’s not the physical, but the spiritual life that’s needed. To feed on his word is to eat and be filled.

  31. And yes I have read the catechism. I studied at FUS. It blatantly contradicts scripture.

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